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hitler devised gas chambers for mass murder。

he found it too cumbersome and costly to kill people one by one and then dispose of their bodies; so he devised ingenious methods of mass murder。

there are other means of mass murder too …… for example; as happened in the recent munal riots at ahmedabad; or at other places …… but these are all very expensive methods。

also; it is such an effort to kill people one by one …… and it takes a lot of time as well。

killing people one by one doesnt work: you kill one here; and another is born somewhere else。

so hitler would have five thousand people put in a gas chamber together; and with the flick of a button these five thousand people were virtually turned into vapor; they would simply evaporate。

the chamber would be empty; no sign of them would be left。

not a drop of blood was spilled; not a single grave was dug。

it was all very neat。

no one can accuse hitler of bloodshed。

if god is still dispensing justice by the old standards; he will find hitler totally innocent。

he did not spill a drop of blood; he pierced no breast with his sword; he simply devised an ingenious method of killing; a means beyond description。

he placed people in a gas chamber; switched on a high…voltage button and the people simply evaporated。

not a sign was left to prove they had ever existed。

hitler; for the first time; got rid of people as one boils water and turns it into vapor。

he turned ten million people into gas! 

it is very difficult for a soul like hitlers to find a new body quickly。

and it is good it is so difficult; otherwise the earth would be in great trouble。

hitler will have to wait for a very long time; because it is extremely difficult for a conception of such a low quality to take place again。

what does it mean to be born through an inferior conception? it means that generations of the parents ancestors have a long chain of evil deeds to their credit。

in a single lifetime one cannot accumulate enough evil to account for the conception of a person like hitler。

to produce a son like hitler; how much evil; how many murders can one man mit in one lifetime? for a son like hitler to choose his parents; a long chain of evil deeds is required; deeds performed by the parents for hundreds; thousands; millions of years。

this means that if a person were to work in a slaughterhouse continuously for thousands of years; only then could his genes; his breed; bee capable of attracting a soul like hitlers。

the same holds true for a good soul。

for an average; ordinary soul there is no difficulty taking birth; there are wombs all over ready to receive such souls。

and besides; its demands are very ordinary。

there are the same cravings: eating; drinking; making money; enjoying sex; seeking honor and position …… such ordinary longings。

everyone longs for these things; and so the soul has no problem finding a womb。

all parents can give any soul the opportunity t
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Chapter 4

(//小|//说//网)
returning to the source

30 october 1969 am in meditation camp at dwarka; gurujat; india 

question 1 

a friend has asked: according to what you have said; one can triumph over death through meditation or sadhana。

but then; doesnt the same state exist when we are in sleep? and if it does; then why cant death be conquered through sleep? 

the first thing that needs to be understood is that triumph over death does not mean there is something like death to conquer。

to triumph over death simply means you will e to know there is no death。

to know that death is not is to conquer it。

there is nothing like death to be conquered。

as soon as one knows there is no death; our ongoing and losing battle with death ceases。

some enemies exist; and there are others that in reality do not exist but only seem to exist。

death is one of those enemies with no real existence; it only seems to exist。

and so; do not take the triumph to mean that somewhere death exists and that we shall conquer it。

this would be like a man going crazy fighting with his shadow; until someone points out to him; 〃look closely; the shadow has no substance。

it is merely an appearance。

〃 if the man looked at the shadow and realized what he was doing; he would laugh at himself; only then could he know he has conquered the shadow。

conquering the shadow simply means there was not even the tiniest shadow to be fought with; anyone attempting to do so would go crazy。

one who fights with death will lose; one who knows death will triumph over it。

this also means that if death is not; then in reality we never ever die …… whether we are aware of it or not。

the world does not consist of those people who die and those who do not die …… no; its not like that。

in this world no one ever dies。

there are two kinds of people; however: those who know this as a fact; and those who dont …… this is the only difference。

in sleep we reach the same place we do in meditation。

the only difference is that in sleep we are unconscious; while in meditation we are fully conscious。

if someone were to bee fully aware; even in his sleep; he would have the same experience as in meditation。

for example; if we were to put a person under anesthetic; and in his unconscious state bring him on a stretcher to a garden where flowers are in full bloom; where fragrance is in the air; where the sun is shining and the birds are singing; the man would be pletely unaware of all this。

after we brought him back and he was out of the anesthesia; if we asked him how he liked the garden; he would not be able to tell us anything。

then; if you were to take him to the same garden when he was fully conscious; he would experience everything present there when he had been brought in before。

in both cases; although the man was brought to the same place; he was unaware of the beautiful surroundings in the first instance; while in the second instance he would be fully aware of the flowers; the fragrance; the song of the birds; the rising sun。

so although you will undoubtedly reach as far in an unconscious state as you will reach in a conscious state; to reach some place in an unconscious state is as good as not reaching there at all。

in sleep we reach the same paradise we reach in meditation; but we are unaware of it。

each night we travel to this paradise; and then we e back …… unaware。

although the fresh breeze and the lovely fragrance of the place touch us; and the songs of the birds ring in our ears; we are never aware of it。

and yet; in spite of returning from this paradise totally unaware of it; one might say; 〃i feel very good this morning。

i feel very peaceful。

i slept well last night。

〃 

what do you feel so good about? having slept well; what good happened? it cannot be only because you slept …… surely you must have been somewhere; something must have happened to you。

but in the morning you have no knowledge of it; except for a vague idea of feeling good。

one who has had a deep sleep at night gets up refreshed in the morning。

this shows the person has reached a rejuvenating source in sleep …… but in an unconscious state。

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